Theres no lesson here - suiciding is cheap skilless and negates the purpose of high sec - it was supposed to be safe space.

Originally by Oveur: High security empire space is supposed to be quite safe. ... That's the whole point of high security.

Dev post - show me one that says otherwise.

You can delude yourself into thinking high sec is quite safe now but we all know its not quite that way atm

Im saying its not quite safe because its far too easy and risk free to gank. Not just small ships but some of the largest ships allowed in high sec.

Lol.

What needs to happen is EHP should be a proper balance to dissuade ganking for giggles. A ship should only be woth suiciding if its fitted with or carrying enough to justify the gank on economic terms. The devs have done this before when exhumers were released with way too little HP. They need to do it again to account for the increased DPS of current skills and ships.

Faction play no role. Concord is irrelevant when it comes to ganking since ganking is so quick even on a capital class hull.

EHP and build cost have always been used to balance ships in EvE. Apparently devs believe in it to and always have.

They're irrelevant to the discussion.

Not a lie at all. Build cost and EHP are related. A frigs build cost and EHP are lower than dessie which is lower than cruiser and so on. I didn't say they were all perfectly linear.

Exhumer EHP was buffed because they were too easy to gank vs cost of the hull. The same is now true of freighters.

I want to make it clear that one of our goals in this rebalancing pass is to somewhat narrow the gap between higher cost and lower cost ships compared to the canyon that existed in the past. We are not planning on buffing the high cost ships to the same degree that we did with the T1 Frigates and Cruisers, as this would simply create direct power creep and leave us right back where we started. We want to reach a place where cheaper ships are more than just something you fly when you start the game, but instead present a viable and interesting option to be chosen by people of many levels of experience. Our vision for cost-balancing is that cost should play a limited part in balancing ships and that obtaining a roughly linear increase in effectiveness should require an exponential increase in cost.